Are you qualified to speak here? What do you really know about Mexican immigrants?

I am an old rancher on the Mexican border. My family has ranched here since 1908. I’ve been looking at some of these answers. 99% of these people don’t have any idea what they are talking about.

These mexicans have changed. 50 years ago, they were all good people and I liked them. They lived with us and taught me spanish and many good ways and customs. They and us depended on each other and I made good friends with many of them. They worked hard and never stole from us. All of my good old mexican friends are dead now. I miss them.

Now, they are bad. I wouldn’t give a nickel to any of them now. I don’t know what happened. They are mean and bad. About 10 to 15 years ago they started stealing from us and got mean and don’t want to be friendly any more.

Do you really know the new immigrants?

33 Comments

  1. I work as a CBP Officer on the border everyday helping out new Immigrants and turning back people who do not have a legal right to be here. So, yes I feel I am up to date on Immigration policy and can speak in this forum. And please note, when I say illegal in this forum I mean everybody, not just people from Mexico. We send back people from Asia, Europe, Canada, Australia, The Middle East and Mexico. If you are here illegally we are very "equal opportunity"

    I here what you are saying. There seems to be a bigger sense of entitlement people feel they have whenever we send them away. We tried to deny a man for being a public charge (he hadn’t paid his $47,000 hospital bill from his last stay, that’s a problem). The first thing his green card holder son did was call Senators complaiing about us and how we couldn’t do that. Well, yes we could, but you would be surprised how quick management will crumble when they get phone calls from not one but four angry Senators telling us to let this person stay in violation of the very INA they wrote.

    We tried to send home a man from the Middle East who was certainly up to no good (the suitcase full of information talking about the greatness of 9/11 was our first clue). He missed his first flight home because he got on the phone to the consulate to complain about how we were being unfair. The Supervisor was too chicken to tell him to hang up, get on the plane and GTFO. We wouldn’t dare have a complaint against us.

    I walk down the street and I see protests where people are saying "I am Illegal, so what!!!" Well, I’ll tell you what’s up as I kick you out. Of course I do not have the legal authority inside the border, and we wouldn’t dare let local police do anything, which helps build this culture of entitlement.

    Again, I am more than willing to help legal immigrants into this country. I do it everyday. But when I see someone entering this country in violation of federal law, then demanding that I give them everything, I am more than a little fed up.

    Max Power
  2. Yeah, I know plenty of immigrants, and I haven’t had the same experience as you have. Whenever a large group of people suddenly seems to change for the worse, a wise man will wonder if it was really them that changed.

    beardog4314
  3. All I need to know is that they are illegal and anything after that is irrelivant.

    Obviously if you break our laws to get in here your bad, so it doesn’t seem that far fetched they wouldn’t have any respect for any other laws (stealing,etc) we have in place.

    Get them out!

    baby1
  4. I lived in Mexico City for over a year, and I immigrated my Mexican husband so I think I know what Im talking about. I have found that a lot of Americans have no idea that there is a rich and upper middle class in Mexico that has no desire to leave, because they have a good life in Mexico.

    The people that are coming here are often time criminals and extremely uneducated. They have no desire to assimilate to our culture and get upset when a person dosent speak Spanish.

    A lot (not all) are rude and nasty, talking about you in Spanish right to your face. And when you let them know that you speak Spanish the abuse imflames. (personal exp.)

    mintgirl79
  5. I live within sight of the border, in a rather prosperous neighborhood. The ONLY people I see doing hard work here are Mexicans. Are we really ready to pay $10 for a head of lettuce or a tomato?

    All this got started about 25 years ago under the great Ronald Reagan. He cut family planning money from Foreign Aid to Latin America–his conservative Christian backers did not want our tax money going to show Mexicans and other Latin Americans how to keep their population growth rates low. Until then, their rates of economic growth exceeded their rates of population growth, but once family planning was eliminated, the population growth began to outpace the economic growth. They will not voluntarily starve to death, will they? So thank Mr. Reagan and his conservative Christian supporters. Conservatives call it "The Law of Unexpected Consequences"–it means if you don’t consider the consequences of what you are doing you are liable to get an unpleasant surprise. Welcome to reality, 25 years later.

    jxt299
  6. There is a tremendous difference between _immigrants_ and _illegal aliens_.
    The immigrants that I know are, like in your experience, honest and hard-working individuals.

    The ones that I know to be "undocumented" tend to hang out on street corners, in Hispanic bars, and public areas. They are unruly and obnoxious.

    Don’t get me wrong, some of the "documented" ones are in that crowd also, but the vast majority are not.

    My solution:
    1. Close the borders
    2. Round up an deport all the known "undocumented" aliens
    3. Offer those with legal or even expired work visas the opportunity to apply for citizenship
    4. Keep the borders closed

    Joe U
  7. I have lived in Southern california for the past 10 years and I’m well aware of what you are talking about. This is why US citizens don’t want them here. The new generations are very disrespectful and want everything given to them. The biggest reason US citizens and illegals are not getting along is because these illegals don’t understand that respect isn’t just given to someone, it is earned. they respect us and our laws, and stop living in some fantasy that this land has always been theirs, then we will respect them. Until then, build the wall, deport them all, and see how easy it is for them to get back over here.

    Mark J
  8. I’ve known bad and good.Just as I have in any culture.I try not to let the bad influence me to the point of hating all. Or I would hate all people who listen to Country music because of the loser and abuser my ex was. You can’t stereotype is my point.

    Dog Tricks
  9. I had heard about them killing livestock and pets that belong to the ranches along the border. That should be enough for Shoot to Kill!

    I hate to see what happened to your property values.

    Paula Revere
  10. The "new" ones I’m running across are nothing like that. Nothing AT ALL! I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and I am in property management. I have a number of Mexican immigrants I rely on, on a daily basis. They have a number of Mexican immigrants that report to them. I can tell you the ones I deal with are honest, hardworking, and they ARE good friends.

    kj
  11. They know they hate Mexicans.
    That’s all they care about.
    They don’t care how many times you salute the American flag.
    They don’t care if you fought in Iraq.
    They don’t care if you speak English.
    They don’t care if you voted Republican.
    YOU ARE MEXICAN. THAT’S ALL THEY SEE.

    Hotwheels
  12. I lived in Arizona for 69 years, My family was here when it was still part of Spain. I have a lot of family in Mexico, I visit often. I know the country and the people well, people change when the Border Patrol kill immigrants in cold blood and vigilante groups are out hunting them.
    Yes hate makes people change.

    Daniel F
  13. There are 12-20 million of them here. You have not personally met all of them, or even most. Neither have any of us. The assumption that they are ALL BAD- of ALL GOOD- is equally ignorant.

    SOme are good, some are bad. I know 100s- perhaps 1000s of them. How? I work with them- I do social work and courtroom interpretation.

    And, I lived in Mexico and have a fair grasp of culture. I would never say that they are all great. They aren’t, but, they also aren’t all awful.

    I am sorry that you have had bad luck with the people you have encountered lately. Hopefully it will get better soon.

    Amanda h
  14. Hello, I think I am qualified.
    I’m mexican, not migrant, i’m living and working in Mexico, and I agree with you (wich may surprise to many others).
    In the past, 20 years ago or more, the mexican migratig were good people, polite, that went to US and get back with enough money to start a business here, in Mexico. I know many from that time, relatives and friends, that now have became in mexican businesmen, specially in farms (where i am). In that time they could earn enogh, also dolars had more value than today: they could go and save enough to come back and start their own business here, now that is not possible, they just earn enogh to live there, no saving. And, not everybody tried to go there: only some regions in where people is more polite or better in work.
    But today it is different, actually. That kind of mexican that migrate in the past now stay here, the most (not all of them we must say) of the migrants in this time are the less educated and poors, going there from other regions than before (it used to be from states of Jalisco, Zacatecas or northern states; now it is from southern states too, it means different people, different culture).
    Sadly, what you said is true. Migrants today are NOT the main mexican people, many in US doesn’t konw this. Many migrants going out from Mexico are mean and lazy people even here, in Mexico. Certanlly, no all of them, but many.
    In my poin of view, one thing to fix it would be the called "reforma migratoria"; Canada is still receiving mexican inmigrants of the kind you mentioned, because it is through a legal way, and they can choose what people to accept, usually, the more educated. I have friends now migrating to Canada: they have bachelors or degrees in mexican universities, they go to Canada to work and they speak english and/or french before they go out. Canada is taking the best migrant mexicans at this time, the "old fashioned" migrants, US has only those wich are not wanted there. US should think about this, we will be neighbors forever.

    Yes, I really know the new migrants, they are not wanted even here. Sorry, I know it is wrong.

    bagalood
  15. Honestly, I think the US govt is at fault for allowing disrespectful illegal aliens in our country and catering to their needs. These illegals feel that they have a right to be here. Have you ever seen them march on the streets, waving their nation’s flag?

    GoYankees
  16. I know more than I want to know,I live in San Antonio which has been heavily Hispanic my whole life. But it is indeed a whole new ballgame now,at least overall. My neighborhood is still actually pretty good,most of the trouble comes from outside it,but the city as a whole has gone downhill over the last 20 years. It’s still a lot better than many others though,Phoenix and LA immediately come to mind. Those cities are truly lost.

    Jack

    Jack The Ripper
  17. I agree with bagalood. I’m also a mexican that lives and works in México (I have a BS in Computer Sciences).

    The most of the mexicans that imigrate illegally have two characteristics:

    They are poor
    The have no education (or just the basic education)

    I have a lot of relatives with this characteristics but…they are still nice and hard working people that don’t have better options in the places where they were born. In my last travel to NY I saw a "US Mexican" (his mother is mexican, he is a "New Yorker" born and raised in the US) that made me feel embarrassed, I knew why you don’t like mexicans…or, that type or mexicans with no education.
    But I also have friends working legally and making good things for the US Americans (In Microsoft and Secondmille).

    Please, do not think that all the mexicans want to live in the US, in fact, the most of the BS owner’s don’t dream about it, because we can have a very good life in México, we do accept opportunities in the US to increase our knowledge and experience, that’s all.

    PS: We also know some US americans that ashame your country…they are called "Spring Breakers". And not because of them we think that you are the same.

    Anima Scura
  18. I agree with you about them changing. Iv had good Mex. Friends,years ago,before they decided to take over our country. Now I think any of them coming across illegally should be shot. My old Mex. Friends agree with me!

    jojo68m
  19. you never notice the nice person until years later and you look back. but for some reason we all remember the bad nasty ones easily… in fact we sometimes even know there name and how to spell it right but the nice guys we take hours to remember them. and maybe just part of the name

    tank
  20. The people of Mexico are not bad. The government and the people who want to use them as labor for next to no cost are bad.

    I don’t have a problem with immigrants, (I have a problem with illegal immigrants however) I don’t think we should punish people for not being American.

    Mexicans are just as likely to be bad people as Americans are.

    The only thing I have a problem with about immigration is that it seems that America is being pressured to change to what the immigrants are used to. The immigrants come to a new country and should change their ways to fit the country’s, they had a choice to go there and have a choice to leave. The country should not adapt to the immigrants.

    – – – – –
    A man was lying in bed one night when he heard a sound. He looked outside and was shocked to see a flying saucer in his lawn. He talked to the alien that came out of it and tried to convince him to leave, but the alien refused. Finally, the man called the police station and told them he had an alien problem. All they did was issue the alien a drivers license.
    ‘I guess they misunderstood me when I said I had an alien problem,’ said the man.

    Capt Kiith Sobaan
  21. Yes I do and the days of the blanket "good, honest, hardworking people" is gone. It is an evil and hatred I have never seen before and I don’t like it one bit. They are definately different from those I have known in the past as well. Too many act like we "hate" them because of their race…..their race has nothing to do with it. Past ones never acted like this. Most don’t like them because too many of this new generation are just plain rude and mean. I suppose in their defense it seems the nasty bug has bitten world wide to this age group……I never remember seeing such hate before.

    peanuthead
  22. I am only 24 and i live in NM, im hispanic (not mexican). but i was raised around my grandparents friends alot of them who were mexican. they were raised with respect and taught their children to also have respect. but now in my generation i am seeing mostly the ILLEGAL immigrant MEXICANS who give all hispanics including the older mexicans a bad name by the way they disreguard the laws and have no respect for no one. so yeah i know what im talking about from my experience.

    MRS. MARTIAN
  23. The Mexican immigrants that I know who are here legally are wonderful people. One of my coworkers who is a legal immigrant invited me to go to church with his family the last time I saw him.

    Of the Mexicans who I know who are here *illegally*, many are to be completely avoided. Some live in my neighborhood, and their American neighbors of Mexican descent fear and avoid them.

    It wasn’t very long ago when an officer of the law was killed here in east Texas by illegal immigrants on a routine traffic stop. It was all caught on camera. The illegals had a large quantity of illegal drugs in the vehicle, and shot and killed the officer.

    It is true that murder is wrong regardless of who commits it. But if it is someone that has entered your country illegally, then kills government employees who are armed for the purpose of protecting the citizenry and enforcing the laws, then shouldn’t we call it terrorism?

    longview cycle lady
  24. Mexican immigrants are your most hard-working individuals in any place that you go…at least on the west-coast. I mean, take a super-market for example, and notice that about 95% of the workers are hispanic. Nobody, has taken the slack to work like "Mexicans" do. I don’t care who you are, or what you say- the truth is that they freakin work their @sses off. Now, when it comes to their character, that’s going to be different for every single individual. I live in a town where probably 65% of it is predominantly hispanic. All I can say is that you have your good, and bad- just like any other "Ethnicity". Just because you had some bad experiences with some "Hispanics", don’t let that detur you from making new "Mexican" buddies!

    Angelino!
  25. I AM MEXICAN, ADOPTED, AND BY AMERICAN PARENTS IN 1975. I HAVE GONE BACK TO JUAREZ AND IT IS A CITY OF DEATH NOW. THE CITY IS CURRUPT AND AS A VICTIM OF RAPE HERE, MEXICAN MEN HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO TREAT WOMEN. IT’S FUN FOR THEM. AS FOR HERE, WE ARE BLAMED FOR EVERYTHING INCUDING THE WAVE OF CRIME AND DUE TO BUSH’S WANTING EVERYONE OUT. FINE. I THINK IMMIGRANTS OF MEXICO DESERVE TO HAVE STATUS BECAUSE WE DO THE SH** WORK MOST AMERICANS ARE TOO LAZY TO DO. MEXICO HAS IT’S OWN PROBLEMS AND THE USA ISN’T HELPING. I LOVE MY COOUNTRY, AMN I WOULD PREFER GOING BACK TO IT, BUT NOT UNTIL WOMEN ARE LOOKED AT A PEOPLE, NOT A KILLSPORT. THE CARTELS AND SEX TRAFICKERS ARE A NEW BREED WHEN IT COMES TO CORUPPTION AND BAD ETHICS. SORRY.

    MONICA'S SECRETS
  26. When the laws started to be enforce attitudes start changing. And many illegals still believe that Mexico owns parts of America. When the schools in Mexico are teaching that in Mexico’s history it does teach their people that parts of America certain areas belongs to Mexico and where stolen by America and I think they believe they are entering their own country

    Sony
  27. I’d say I’m fairly qualified to speak about Mexican immigrants, I’m dating one. He moved here from Mexico 4 years ago and several members of his family live here also. legally. They are some of the nicest, most respectful people I’ve ever met. I’m sorry if you’ve run into some mean people, but believe me, it’s not just the mexican immigrants that are getting mean. It’s everyone, the world is not a nice place anymore. Americans included.

    erich485

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